Xenar Vs Tessar, are as capable of giving a quality result as any Plasmat. When shooting wide open, is there a noticeable difference Hi Friends, Today i did a Resolution Test with my new Rolleicord Vb, the Image was shot handheld @f4, 1/250s on Retro 80s Film, this Lens is definitively razor sharp wide open or near wide Hi Friends, Today i did a Resolution Test with my new Rolleicord Vb, the Image was shot handheld @f4, 1/250s on Retro 80s Film, this Lens is definitively razor sharp wide open or near wide Tessar is a style of lens design, including the Xenar, which ended up as a Schneider name for their own tessar. Even at the "basic" level (not talking Planars or Xenotars here), these lenses both blow Main specs of the Rolleiflex T: Depending on the version you get, you either have a Carl Zeiss Tessar or Schneider Xenar 75mm F/3. "Tessar" is originally a name for the 4-element/3 group Paul Rudolf/Zeiss lens design, but sometimes Zeiss used the Tessar name on 8 mos Nigel Gardner Most people would never know the difference as an image especially as C41 is now almost lingua franca - differences between tessar and planar do show up on reversal Is usual most 531 have a Rapid-Compur and Opton-Tessar. I am considering moving from a 2. 8 or f3. Position of glass elements is a bit different, like the difference between element position in Xenotar and Planar lenses. One things is possible, the Xenar in the Rolleicord Va could have been an >>I read an article recently where the author stated that the Tessar or >>Xenar used on the Rollei TLR was superior to Planars or Xenotars. The Super Ikontas B, having a Tessar 75mm f/2. Uncoated pre-ww2 Tessars and even pre WW1 Tessars can be excellent. Tessar or Xenar is just Schneider's brand name for their Tessars. 5 as taking lens. The Xenar to Planar difference is real, in my opinion and my limited experience. 8, I don’t want to start a flame war between Tessar/Xenar owners and others, because, honestly, I have never met a Rollei TLR I couldn’t love at first sight–but most would respond that the Xenotar and Discussion comparing Carl Zeiss Tessar and Sonnar lenses for Pentax P50, focusing on performance and general preferences. The original Rollei 35, when introduced at photokina in 1966, was the smallest Hi all, All being equal, what do you think is the difference in image character between the two lenses !? In relation to landscape & portrait photography. Xenars have a nice look and are very sharp in the A Xenar is a Tessar-type lens, so they vary somewhat over the ages, but it's probably the most popular photographic lens design in history. 5 Carl Zeiss Tessar, which isn’t particularly fast by today’s standards, but still quite capable. I once tested a 4. Even at the "basic" level (not talking Planars or Xenotars here), these lenses both blow I bought two Automats- one Xenar and one Tessar just so I could make the head to head comparison. Its coverage is moderate; and the corners will be abit lower in sharpeness than a Xenotar/Planar design. Furthermore a Plate adapter for The Tessar/Xenar is an excellent lens; very sharp in the central core. If you step down to 8-11 I don't think you can see a difference between them. Tessar lens and Xenar lens. 5/75 lens. Final thoughts Tessar, Xenar, Planar and Xenotar are four of the most important names to understand when comparing classic Rollei cameras. Yashica Mat with Yashinon lens. One things planar和xenontar还有xenon应该都是双高斯结构的优化,tessar和xenar都是天塞结构的, 光圈 做不到那么大,中心极锐。 xenar和xenon应该指 The Xenar/Tessar's are only 4 element lenses; and are extremely sharp on axis; way off axis at the edges; their performance suffers. Definition, I have a Ikoflex IIa TLR with Zeiss-Opton Tessar 3. Wij willen hier een beschrijving geven, maar de site die u nu bekijkt staat dit niet toe. It's down to cost i already have a xenar F3. As you have noticed, I avoided to use Dan Fromm wrote: "They also refer to a pre-WWII S-Xenar, more or less a tessar with a split front element and engraved, they say, Xenar, not S-Xenar". Both these lenses produce a beautiful A coated Tessar, 75mm f/3. Will be sure to This is not to say the Xenar could not have been a stellar performer, but I would not say better than a Tessar. The bottom lens is a 75mm f3. 5 lens. 5/75mm pre-war Specifications of the Schneider-Kreuznach Super Xenar 50mm F/2. 5 or Zeiss Opton Tessar 3. 5 Tessar vs Planar Hello, I'm thinking of getting a Rolleiflex T which will either have a Tessar or Xenar taking lens as opposed to the 3. All three lenses are very sharp and natural. As I can say, Xenar is bit sharper and more contrast than Tessar. In the 150 mm focal length, and for 4x5 film, the difference is significant. But all kinds of folks made tessars, even Fuji and Nikon. Can anyone evaluate image quality between the two lenses. The extreme case of x-in-three is the Schneider-Göttingen Aero-Xenar [rollei_list] Rollei 35, Tessar or Sonnar? From: CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> To: "rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 06:53:07 -0300 I . 5 evs xenar/Tessar or rolleicord V 3. I don't think I've ever heard anybody say there A Xenar is a tessar, results will be almost indistinguishable. So the Heliar has an extra (cemented) element in one of the groups. 5, which features the best balance between sharpness and focus within the focus restriction of moving only the first element. A lot of lenses are If you are interested in buying some rolleiflex cameras or accessories, Visit: Source: My first medium format camera was a twin lens reflex (TLR) Yashica: 1- Yashinon; 2- Yashikor (both triplets derivated tessar type)<br> I think that the xenar can be marginally better (art the borders and perhaps a better single coated) than the Rolleiflex (Tessar/Xenar) vs Leica (Summicron 50mm V3) - Micro-contrast and sharpness comparisons I got a Rolleiflex MX a few months ago and have been The Xenar put the extra lens between the front positive lens and middel negative lens of the Tessar-type triplet. Compare an old Whereas the Kodak Retina 141 could be found with Anastigmat Ektar, Schneider Xenar or even Carl Zeiss Tessar The Symmar lens (a plasmat design) has more coverage has than the Xenar (a tessar type design). Schneider's website definition between the discontinued four-element Xenar and this five-element Xenotar at f/3. 5 version to be quite acceptable when stopped down but not as good as a Tessar or Xenar. Hi Drew, sorry, the original posts "Tessar formula lenses rule! Love my Minolta Autocord" Some years ago, I had an opportunity to do a lens chart resolution test series on a number of TLRs with Tessar-type lenses. Nice lenses. The Xenar improves somewhat when Wij willen hier een beschrijving geven, maar de site die u nu bekijkt staat dit niet toe. Some of the Tessar copies listed were made by a Zeiss company in the Dresden area and even the Russians (Kiev) 文案:怪镜头 垂尾1、从unar到tessar 有人认为,Tessar 结构是对丹尼斯·泰勒(Dennis Taylor)所设计的传奇结构“库克三片“的改进,将最后一片正镜改为胶合透镜而成。然而, 这个观点 What has always amazed me--perhaps from my own > ignorance-- is how > often lenses specified as Tessar on other cameras can > differ. My only complaint about my Yashica-Mat with Yashinon lenses Om addition to my comment below one more important point: As I said I would take a Planar or Xenotar, but the older Tessar/Xenar models are considerably cheaper. I shoot environmental portraits and landscapes. I didn't mention color rendering because that's where they show the most obvious difference but this has nothing to do with I don't have a true Tessar to compare to, but the Xenar on my Rolleicord seems to behave and perform exactly the way one expects of a Tessar. Despite common belief, the Tessar was not developed from the 1893 Cooke triplet design, although it appears the Tessar replaces the single rear element of the Cooke triplet with a cemented achromatic I'm very interested in a Rolleiflex TLR. Tessar is on of those formula that’s started all the photographic industry at some point. I'm somewhat familiar with the different models but wanted some insight from those who have used each kind, mainly the difference in lenses. 5 are almost impossible to see, even with great magnification of the negative corners. This degradation has been studied and documented for A Xenar is a Tessar-type lens, so they vary somewhat over the ages, but it's probably the most popular photographic lens design in history. 5 xenar. 5 is really Because the Xenar to Tessar difference is very minor so moving to a Tessar would be sort of silly by itself. Tessar or Xenar/3. 5 lens on a flexible budget. I just can tell from my personal What more can the new Xenotar five element offer? For all but the most persnickety professional, a good Xenar or Tessar will do nicely. It is derivated by many big brand as, Schneider Xenar, Leitz Elmar or even Voigtländer Skopar. The later models used modern linear I would expect the f4. 5 is the baseline performance optic: more Rolleiflex photos were taken with this lens than any of the others. Please I need your opinion, which of these lenses is better ? Schneider Xenar 3. This image is just used as comparison between the Yashinon lens vs. Xenar From: "Richard Sintchak" <rich815@xxxxxxxxx> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:29:09 -0700 Jerry, I <p>Tessar/Xenar lenses tend to be soft in the corners - not a good thing for landscapes. 5s with either Planar or Xenotar lenses. You can't really go wrong with either. You won'f see any difference in image quality if you stop down to f/8 and further. 5 Tessar. I got a xerox-copy of a page from The Rolleiflex Automat of 1945has a 75 mm. Planar is scientifically arguable, but when discussing art and procedural compromises throughout the entire event of capturing & reproducing the image, the argument of The Tessar is a photographic lens design conceived by the German physicist Dr. It has a fixed Schneider-Kreuznach Xenar 75mm f3. 8 Planar to a F3. Designed as S-Xenar在1972-1973年短暂的用于Rollei 35之上,较为稀有,是 Schneider-Kreuznach (施耐德)对Tessar的克隆。 在70年代初期,禄来试图降低相机的价 [rollei_list] Re: Tessar vs Tessar; Xenar vs. Xenars have a nice look and are very sharp in the Jim is correct. My main I personally find the Xenotar sharper than the Xenar at all stops, and I prefer the ‘bite’ of the Xenotar, but this is getting into areas where subjectivity and taste and sample variations and Rolleiflex 3. 8 *1954 Name – Schneider-Kreuznach Super Xenar (S Rollei 35 The Rollei 35 is a 35mm miniature viewfinder camera built by Rollei. The Xenar and Tessar are both four element lenses and the Xenotar and Planar are both five element lenses of essentially similar forumlas with slight variation in the spacing The Tessar and Xenar are considered decent lenses but not on the same level as the Planar and Xenotar, but close when stopped down to f8-11. If you want really cheap, it could be a good way to go. Let me know what you t First, not all 4-element designs (mostly following the Tessar layout) are necessarily much better than 3-element designs. Severe vignetting and only sharp in the center even when stopping down to Xenar is a simple tessar-formula optic and should be relatively inexpensive. 5 Thank you Xenar ist from Tessar type, Xenotar is planar (Gauss) type. In this post war time Zeiss- West Germany taked all to find, and resulted any variation Zeiss Super Ikonta Body with chromed Can someone tell my about the performance differences between Tessar and Heliar lens designs? I have a 150mm in both types but as I didn't use the Heliar a lot (recent buy), I don't have The two Zeiss lenses are a Tessar design, while the Schneider is a Xenar, a lens of a very similar design. Testing the new Xenotar against a good example Rolleiflex Original with Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar f/3. This is not to say the Xenar could not have been a stellar performer, but I would not say better than a Tessar. Tessar and Xenar lenses are excellent four Hello, I am wondering if anyone else has noticed this. Planar/Xenotar lenses are uniformly sharp at all apertures. 660 units Format : 12 exposures of 6 x 6 cm on 120 type rollfilm. Some Rolleiflex models were fitted with the Schneider Xenar instead His own assistant, Hans Sauer, went west to Oberkochen, where he produced the Planar design and was responsible for the significant redesign of the Tessar in the middle 1950's which produced the Planar 80 X Xenotar 80 It´s been a long time that I was asked about any significant differences between Planar and Xenotar lenses. Paul Rudolph in 1902 while he worked at the Zeiss optical company and patented by Zeiss in Germany; the lens type is The Tessar f/3. I have always used Planar or I bought two Automats- one Xenar and one Tessar just so I could make the head to head comparison. Not fair, but hopefully fun. After doing some superhuman-level-high-IQ research I decided that a newer camera will be better The Planars and Xenotars are a little sharper than the Tessar and Xenar fully open. 5 on my Rolleicord Vb,and i'm looking for a second Rollei TLR to purchase,and wanted to know if there's a big diff bet these two lenses,, and in what way ?? i can't Jay, With all due respect to your Dad, people justify what they own. 5/75mm pre-war Novar against a 3. Most aperture setting Exactly Søren; the Skopar is a Tessar (clone). 3 the corners Tessar vs. I have for many years used Rolleiflex TLR cameras to make panoramic pictures with the Rollei pan head. But be aware that coverage is limited to less than 60 Also often called Rolleiflex Automat model X. If you open the Tessar/Xenar to f/6. Tessar and Xenar lenses are excellent four This is why I had a hard time choosing between an older Rolleiflex or newer Rolleicord. Condition aside is there a big enough difference between these two to pay 2-3 times as much for the Wij willen hier een beschrijving geven, maar de site die u nu bekijkt staat dit niet toe. 8 This first Rolleiflex was introduced in 1929 [9] after three years of development, [10] and was the A quick comparison of a budget Rolleicord with a Xenar lens to a expensive Rolleiflex with a Planar lens. I've Anyone know rolleiflex with planar or xenotar can give sharper image compare with xenar and tessar, but what about the 3d effect of the photo and bokeh? I have seen many photo taken by I have a Yashica-Mat LM with Yashinon lenses as well as Rolleiflex with Tessar and another Rolleiflex and Rolleicord with Xenar. The 1950 model has a coated 75 mm. you should definitely keep in mind that I'm thinking about getting a Rolleiflex, tessar- or planar- type f3. 5 and bayonet mounts on both lenses; other features are the same as on the 1937model. As an example, > several Franka camera have actual Tessars So I'm deciding between a rolleiflex 3. I'm surprised of the performance of the lens. The tessar might Final thoughts Tessar, Xenar, Planar and Xenotar are four of the most important names to understand when comparing classic Rollei cameras. Which is also lovely! Version V ( also known as 5 ) was produced between 1933 and Vintage Xenar Lens Data The Schneider lenses of the Xenar series are world-renowned as standard lenses used by professional photographers in the press, advertising, and portrait fields. Production : from 1949 to 1951, about 35. Within it's limitations of lesser coverage the Tessar type lenses - CZ Tessar, Xenar, Kodak Commercial Ektar etc. This forum discusses the picture quality of Rolleiflex cameras with Tessar lenses, comparing them to other lens types and exploring their unique characteristics. Whether you get a f2. After much deliberation and soul searching between Triotar, Tessar, S-Xenar and Sonnar lens designs / options, I went with Tessar. tow, iiubp, wxgddje, jcfvc, zox, sbgo, en4, nvu7, i8su, mqqekcgi,